In this conversation, we dive into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)—what it really means, why it’s often misunderstood, and how we can better support kids and adults who experience it. Joining us are Diane Gould, LCSW, founder and executive director of PDA North America; Jessica Richards, MS, MSW, LCSW, licensed psychotherapist; Molly Williams, M.S.W., A.C.S.W., a Los Angeles-based therapist and consultant who provides neurodiversity-affirming care and training; and Suzanne Sophos, a Certified Peer Support Specialist.